The short answer
On the FFFDS family the phrase no ice covers two unrelated faults - a mechanism that has stopped cycling, and frost appearing on a cabinet that was never fitted to make ice. An ice complaint on a cabinet like this splits in two before any diagnosis starts, because some of the models in the table make ice automatically and some do not, and the two versions of the fault have almost nothing in common.
What you observe on these models
- Ice arriving slowly, or hollow and small — Partial production is a temperature or a water-volume complaint. The mechanism is working; it is being given either too little time or too little water.
- No ice at all, on a model that used to make it — Complete stoppage points at supply or at the switch rather than at the cold, because a compartment that has gone warm usually produces bad ice before it produces none.
- Ice that smells or tastes of the cabinet — Ice picks up whatever is around it, so a taste complaint is a storage and turnover matter rather than a mechanical one.
- NEAR MISS - ice stopped and there is water on the floor — A supply line that has failed will stop the ice and wet the floor at the same time, and the water leak page covers that pairing properly.
Causes, most likely first on this platform
- The ice maker being switched off without anyone meaning to — By far the commonest reason an ice maker stops is that something told it to. An arm lifted by a bag of ice, a switch caught during cleaning, a control left off after a defrost - each looks exactly like a failure and each costs nothing to undo. With one catalogued entry the first question answers itself once you have looked inside, and the rest of the page follows from that single observation.
- A frozen fill tube or a jammed cube — Second on this platform. Clear a jam before condemning anything, and note that it is usually the visible consequence of a temperature swing rather than a fault of its own.
- A complaint about ice on a cabinet that never made it — Third here. Where a model was never fitted with an ice maker, the fault is not a fault: the ice being complained about is frost, and it is driven by warm air getting in.
- A freezer running above where ice is made — Fourth. Temperature stays on the list even when the mechanism is clearly at fault, because a compartment running warm turns every other marginal cause into a visible one.
- The water supply, on models that have one — Last. Where the model is plumbed the supply is still worth proving, especially after a move, since a kinked line behind a cabinet stays invisible until the cabinet comes out.
Check in this order, and why
- Look for a jam before condemning the mechanism — A wedged cube or an iced fill tube stops the cycle in place. Clear it with warm water rather than a tool, and watch whether it returns, because a jam that returns is a temperature story. With one catalogued entry behind this page, whatever you find here is the answer for every owner of the model.
- Establish whether this model has an ice maker at all — Look for a mould, a bail arm and a fill tube rather than for a badge. If none of those are there, the rest of this page collapses into a temperature and sealing question.
- Check the arm and the switch before anything else — A bail arm resting up or a control switched off costs nothing to find and accounts for a striking share of total stoppages, particularly after a clean or a defrost.
Before you open anything
Safety
Unplug the appliance or switch off its breaker before removing any panel or working near the ice mechanism, and remember a capacitor can hold a charge after the power is off. Clear ice with warm water and patience rather than with a screwdriver or a knife: the tubing and the mould behind the frost puncture easily. Never wedge a door switch open to watch a cycle run.
Models in the FFFDS family
Reference| Model number | Family key |
|---|---|
| FFFDS175L3S | avanti:refrigerator:fffds |
When to call a technician
The line here is water and panels. Setting the control, clearing a jam, emptying a packed bin and straightening a line are all owner work; a fill valve, a module or a thermostat is not. Go straight to a call where a plumbed connection is wet, where a breaker trips, or where the compartment will not get cold no matter what the dial says.
Other faults covered for these models
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